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What is happening here? Phalaenopsis mystery growth

Discussion in 'Issues, Disease and Pests' started by TheKellylove, Apr 30, 2015.

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  1. TheKellylove

    TheKellylove Active Member

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    I attached some pictures of a strange growth on a mini Phalaenopsis. Its not a high value plant, so I don't much care what happens, I'm mostly asking out of curiosity. Anybody know what's up with this strange growth? It appears to be like a spike and a leaf growing at the same time. Is this what the dreaded mature plant final-spike looks like?
     
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    Daethen Orchid Mom

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    It does look like a terminal spike, but that does not necessarily mean that it is a goner.
     
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    I've never heard of Phalaenopsis producing terminal spikes, but maybe I'm just daft. Maybe the plant is growing leggy because it isn't getting enough light.
     
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    Leggy? It grows at 2000 fc
     
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    Ray Orchid Iconoclast Supporting Member

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    Terminal spikes happen in phalaenopsis from time to time, and as was mentioned, it doesn't have to be fatal. Keep giving it good culture, and they often form basal growths that carry on normally.
     
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    That's very interesting. I have never heard of terminal spikes in phals or monopodials in general. Hopefully it sends out basal growths. I always love the look of a plant with lots of basal growths but none of mine seem to do that. Does anyone have any experience with promoting basal keikis or is it just genetically determined or a result of good culture (or bad culture in the case of crown rot)? How about using keiki paste?
     
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    Good questions. I've seen certain genus producing more basal keikis, but I can't say I've seen any from phalaenopsis.
     
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    I have had a couple of phals produce terminal buds like this. In both cases I ended up with plants with multiple basal keikis without any intervention by me. They looked odd for a bit but are now producing more spikes than before. I hope yours does the same.
     
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    Ray Orchid Iconoclast Supporting Member

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    Some of these comments make me smile, as phalaenopsis is the ONLY plant I have ever seem producing terminal spikes!

    While that can sometimes result in death of the plant, like Daethen, it doesn't have to, and more often than not, if the plant dies, it's because the grower failed to treat the plant normally.

    The "basal keikies" should do fine, but, sharing the same root system as the "mother" plant, are less likely to be able to be removed and potted separately, like those forming on inflorescences. Not that that's 100% the case, just likely.
     
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    Ray, you ever see Oncidinae or other psuedo bulbous (Zygos) bloom from the apex of the bulb? I mean that's sort apical(terminal) meristem.
     
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    I agree it's a terminal spike. Not really related to the age of the plant - I have seen huge old Phals that are not producing terminal spikes. The plant may very well grow some basal keikis and continue on in that way.
     
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    So what's the main cause of a terminal growth?
     
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