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vanda id.

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by ronan, May 25, 2010.

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  1. May 25, 2010 #1
    ronan

    ronan Member Supporting Member

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    i 've got my own opinion, but would like someone to id these seriously. the man who own the plants think different than me...

    one is coerulescens, the other one lilacina...and sorry, i didn't get the information about the size of the plants/flowers (this is one of THE key (with flower opening schedule), but the owner refuse to give it...)

    thx
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  2. May 25, 2010 #2
    piotrm

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    colours and paterns on lip look like on first picture it is lilacina on second coerulescens ...
     
  3. May 25, 2010 #3
    ronan

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    it's what the owner said! but i 've got description and lilacina is a smaller plant with flowers openning in the same time. color is not really a key for id. i think.

    but you can be right of course...i bought a coerulescens from Nt who knows is stuff and it's exactly the same than the one "my friend" says it's lilacina.

    so, it's why i need help from different sources. thx piotr for helping
     
  4. May 25, 2010 #4
    Roy

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    I agree, the first one is V. lilacina and the second coerulescens.
     
  5. May 25, 2010 #5
    ronan

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    so my book is wrong...:mad:
     
  6. May 25, 2010 #6
    Marni

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    I can't tell much at all from the images. Without being able to compare the lip, wings, callous, or column for differences there doesn't seem enough information to say.
     
  7. May 25, 2010 #7
    ronan

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    why, you have serious key for each specie? the story began when i flowered what i thought to be coerulescens. then my friend told me i was wrong. i can give you all pics you want for id...
    i'm always in the hope that i can be right against all...hahaha
     
  8. May 25, 2010 #8
    Marni

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    Sorry, I am not a taxonomist and don't have much free time right now to try to track down information, perhaps later. A quick look shows that I have at least one description of Vanda coerulescens, but no key so far.

    My point was that given the photographs presented it doesn't seem possible to make a determination. If you have photographs that show the flowers for comparison, that would be great.
     
  9. May 26, 2010 #9
    piotrm

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  10. May 29, 2010 #10
    ronan

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    ho, really interesting! i'm sure my book is wrong, and the seller make the same mistake, it's why i was mistaken...

    thx a lot piotrm, nice to see these kind of knowledge stuff!