TropicOrchidees.com (Frédéric Diebolt) Brazen unethical commerical theft of member photos

Hi,

I just joined the forum after Marni notified me about my images being used without permission. I have emailed Frederic but he has not taken them down.

http://www.tropicorchidees.com/orchidees-botaniques/247-phalaenopsis-tetraspis.html
Original image http://www.flickr.com/photos/ckyeophoto/5284683063/in/set-72157624905878426

http://www.tropicorchidees.com/orchidees-botaniques/252-phalaenopsis-tetraspis-c1.html
Original image http://www.flickr.com/photos/ckyeophoto/5695156275/in/set-72157624905878426

ck

 

Welcome CK.

Apparently, posting here about the used images seems to get them immediately removed. They have been taken down.

 

We will relay this again on the french forums, at least on the one that has not cowed into silence because of his threats of legal action. This guy is amazing...we try to make him understand his business model and attitude is suicidal yet he goes on.

 

Wow, oh wow! Well, Fishballs from OrchidBoard finally logged in and got my message to him as well. Sad really. All you have to do is ask for permission. It's really not that hard unless you're just trying to make fast money.

 

LOL!!! Marni, I hope you never meet this person in person!!!

Seriously though, I get it. What an outrage! I'd be furious as well.

 

Rofl!!! You are truly a natural force to be reckoned with then! I bow to you mam!

 

What a hypocrite!

 

Mr. Knecht,
I see that this topic is still alive, though I haven't heard from you for more than a month now. Curiously, you didn't copy/paste my email with excuses here.

You qualified my action as stealing/robbery and called me theft and other bad vocabulary. I don't accept that. You don't have the ability to judge anyone and call him a thief, so please don't do it.

I copied and used some pictures that I found on google image, true... Given the many reactions to that on many forums and the fact that 2,000+ people read this post indicates that I was punished for that. Is it necessary to keep on the punishment forever ? I don't think so. I don't think my small and honorable company deserves that.

Most of this topic can be considered as defamation, and maybe all that you want is to ruin my company because of your jealousy and that of some of your friends.

May the owner of this forum delete this topic now ? Thank you.

 

You don't answer the good person...I don't think that Marni's name is "Mr Knecht"!!

I think that this is for me, so I can answer. I didn't want to talk with you anymore, but if you insist...
Jalous of what....let me laugh, how could I be jalous???
I already cultivating orchids for years while you do not even know what it was ... do you really know today!!
I took time twice to explain you the "world of orchids", and especially the world of Angraecoids", but you don't seem to understand!!
Please, don't talk about me any more, that is diffamation!!!!

 

Jacob Knecht
"unscrupulous" => this is an invective, not a fact.

"Frederic Diebolt has stolen" => If you really think so, then file a plaint against me and a judge will ascertain if it is robbery or not. For the time being I should be presumed innocent. This is defamation. Anyway, even if the remark wasn't slanderous, it would qualify as defamation.

"I have contacted him to take down these images immediately but he has not done so" => never got emails from you asking to take down your images.


"most importantly, please EU friends do not buy plants from him!"
=> this kind of invective is pure defamation. You are ruining my reputation and my company !

"Please help make our worldwide orchid community a safer more ethical place" => You put me on trial and you are talking about ethics !?

"He just now erased the personally identifiable information from his flick profile page where it used to have his name, now it's blank:
=> Lie.

"AH! I see he has stolen dozens of Tillandsia pictures from Rainforest Flora Inc.http://www.rainforestflora.com/"
=> Rainforest Flora is one of my providers for Tillandsia...

"Let this be a lesson to other would-be thieves." => All that you want is make me pay for all the other people who did that before !

"So he did use one of yours after all! It took a while to get his email, it is:f._______@___.fr" => Thanks for making my email public. Well done.


Marni Turkel
"despicable" => slanderous invective.


"So here is another example of this fellow not responding to a request to remove illegally used material. Orchids & more www.orchideen.com requested that he take down this image (and possibly others) a month ago and it is still up" => never got such an email from Orchids & more. You are better informed on me than I, quite surprising... These methods are pretty nasty indeed.

"When I sent an email to him in early March requesting he take down my images, he didn't do anything until I posted here" => I answered your email within 24 hours. You could have copy/paste my email here but you prefer to distort the truth !


oisifml
"he has been shamed on two french forums as well as comments on his business practice" => this comment suggests I have bad business practice. This is a slanderous invective (you don't like the word defamation obviously).


MiKa
"I will actively see to that none of my customers or friends buy a thing from him" => again, defamation.

Tom-DE
"I don't expect he will apologize to anyone, but threats? LOL!" => I answered everyone's email and apologized. You are too prompt on opening your mouth to say lies.