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TropicOrchidees.com (Frédéric Diebolt) Brazen unethical commerical theft of member photos

Discussion in 'Everything Else Orchid' started by Uluwehi, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. ZWUM

    ZWUM Bulbophiliac Staff Member

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    I'm glad to see that the pics are coming down so quickly. I recognized a few other photos on there but it appears like he just cropped out the owners name and/or water mark from some of the pics. I thought the one picture was one of Dale B's and it appears as if he just cropped his name off the bottom. Frustrating for us and unbelievably audacious on his part.
     
  2. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I tried to find out who grew it because it is an incredible plant/blooming.
     
  3. Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    Marni, have you used Google Image Search's upload function? Simply save a copy of the photo and then drag and drop it to the image search bar. Google will find any copies, even if it has been cropped or flipped.

    It's crazy how some dishonest people underestimate the power of internet search engines.
     
  4. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    That is a fabulous bit of knowledge!!!
     
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  5. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    And it works like a charm. It takes you right to Ed Merkle's image, rather wonderful for checking on image thieves.
     
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  6. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    So, I'm taking a coffee break and found where some of the phal images come from. Shot of an email to alert that photographer.
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Yup, it belongs to Ed.

    Jacob, I will try that technique later. Thank you for the tip.
     
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  10. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Marni, I no longer participate at OB. It has been at least a couple years now and I will have to find my log-in passwords..., I deleted all my photos there and left after Marty, OB owner, decided to stick up his sponsor, Seattle Orchids/Incredible Orchids/U.S. Orchids who stole many of my photos. One of the things Marty said about it was (Something like this): Don't blame it on the thief/robber if you show them your money in your wallet.
     
  12. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I sent him an email. He still has a couple images posted that he took from my website. I've spent a bit of time now looking up many of his images. There have only been a handful that couldn't be traced to someone else's image.
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I wonder if he will answer your email and apologize.
     
  14. Uluwehi

    Uluwehi angraecoids, dendrobiums and more Supporting Member

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    I haven't received any apology, only threats. I doubt he'll apologise to anyone.
     
  15. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    :rolleyes: I didn't actually ask for communication.
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I don't expect he will apologize to anyone, but threats? LOL!
     
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    Marni, I'm a member of multiple orchid forums so I will let the owner of the image and the forum be aware of the issue, as well as other forums. Perhaps the pressure from all forums will help to correct this wrong.
     
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    Done. I posted a thread to 4 different forums and notified Fishballs about it by email.
     
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  19. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Paul, I've also notified a number of people about the use of their images. So far not one has said they gave permission. At least one was taken down over night.

    However, he has not removed these two.
    His use of my image: http://www.tropicorchidees.com/orchidees-botaniques/343-dendrobium-crepidatum.html
    My image: http://marniturkel.com/mostlyspecies/f.d.crepid.750.html

    His use of my image: http://www.tropicorchidees.com/orchidees-botaniques/270-vanda-javierae-syn-javieri.html
    My image: http://marniturkel.com/mostlyspecies/f.v.jav.532.html
     
  20. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    He has now taken mine down. At least we know he is following this thread carefully.
     
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