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Trias sp. ID help

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by Alexis, Sep 29, 2009.

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  1. Sep 29, 2009 #1
    Alexis

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    I acquired this as T disciflora, but I don't think so. This bloomed while I was out of town, so the pics of the flower are likely past prime. The defining characteristic of disciflora is a disc-shaped lip, which mine does not display. Also, disciflora is spotted; mine has subtle stipes with no evidence of spots. The plant habit is like that of Trias picta, maybe a bit larger. The flower, though, is enormous compared to other Trias species in my collection. It is 1.5 cm at its broadest, and 4 cm with the dorsal petal taped open. The first pic is how the flower presents itself naturally (past prime), and the second two are with the dorsal taped up. Pics are not the best, as I whipped them out to see if I can get an ID before the flower completely croaks.

    Ideas?
    Trias-disciflora-092909.jpg Trias-disciflora-092909-1.jpg Trias-disciflora-092909-2.jpg
     
  2. Sep 29, 2009 #2
    Tom-DE

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    No idea... but I must take a number for this one.:D

    Flower size and plant match well with T. disciflora, but I agree the flower doesn't look like T. disciflora.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2009 #3
    Alexis

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    Thanks, Tom. I'll keep you in mind when the plant gets larger.

    Anybody else? Bueller?
     
  4. Sep 30, 2009 #4
    Tom-DE

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    Thanks, Alexis.

    My disciflora is in buds now. I'll pay attention to the flowers this time and see if there are significant changes(color and markings) before they drop off.
     
  5. Sep 30, 2009 #5
    Alexis

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    Wouldn't that be something if the spots turn to stripes as the flower ages? LOL! I'll be interested to see your flowers, Tom.

    I'm emailing the vendor now to see if he can ID it.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2009 #6
    Tom-DE

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    It is more like a wishful thinking:D

    I have seen some T. disciflora with much darker flowers (than mine) though.
     
  7. Oct 6, 2009 #7
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    very nice colour, for me doesnt look as disciflora, is closer to nasuta, or new sp??
     
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    Alexis

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    Thanks for your help, Piotr. The flower on my sp. is much larger than the pbulb, so I don't think the link you posted is the same plant.

    My nasuta, acquired from the same vendor, is about to open 4 buds. At this point, I don't think it's the same plant as the sp., though; the buds are much smaller.
     
  10. Oct 7, 2009 #10
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    That's a hybrid, Alexis. May I have it?
     
  11. Oct 7, 2009 #11
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    DANGER!
    Alexis, don't be sucked in...:cool: He doesn't beg for hybrids, ya know.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2009 #12
    Alexis

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    Not to worry, MJ, I know his tricks.
     
  13. Oct 7, 2009 #13
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    Okay..I was just looking after a sistah.. :cool:
     
  14. Oct 7, 2009 #14
    Dale

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    Darn it, Mary Jane. Why do you always have to blow my cover?
     
  15. Oct 7, 2009 #15
    Alexis

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    You really weren't that far under cover, Dale.

    BTW, I saw Bandon on the tube last night.
     
  16. Oct 8, 2009 #16
    Mary Jane

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    No cussin' here, this is a Trias thread.
     
  17. Oct 8, 2009 #17
    Dale

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    I don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    Oh horse squeezings.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2009 #19
    Dale

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    You old people confuse me.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2009 #20
    piotrm

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    I didn't say is nasuta, just sad flower is more similar to nasuta than to disciflora in my opinion.

    I tried find all Trias, I didn't find from list below only two Trias antheae, Trias pusilla, the rest no match, but maybe something missing?:

    • Trias antheae J.J.Verm. & A.L.Lamb + (from Nabawan, Borneo)
    • Trias bonaccordensis C.S.Kumar – no
    • Trias cambodiana Christenson - no
    • Trias crassifolia (Thwaites ex Trimen) C.S.Kumar – no
    • Trias disciflora (Rolfe) Rolfe – no
    • Trias intermedia Seidenf. & Smitinand – no
    • Trias mollis Seidenf. - no
    • Trias nana Seidenf. No if look same as cambodiaana??
    • Trias nasuta (Rchb.f.) Stapf - hm a bit similar, wrong colours
    • Trias nummularia Aver. & Averyanova – no
    • Trias oblonga Lindl. – no
    • Trias ovata Parish ex Hemsl.– no
    • Trias picta – no
    • Trias pusilla Joseph & H.Deka
    • Trias rolfei Stapf - no
    • Trias rosea - roseum (Ridl.) Seidenf. – no
    • Trias stocksii Benth. ex Hook.f. – no
    • Trias tothastes (J.J.Verm.) J.J.Wood – no
    • Trias verrucosa - no
    • Trias vitrina Rolfe syn. nasuta?

    regards
     
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