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Schoenorchis fragrans

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by KellyW, Jun 11, 2015.

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  1. Jun 25, 2015 #21
    Dave The Scientist

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    If you don't have money for a greenhouse, you can do a lot of cool stuff with Terrariums. With a terrarium humidifier or just pebble trays and frequent watering, you should be able to grow most things mounted. I have had good experiences with New England herptoculture. They have good prices on exo terra kits
     
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    shashidhar sastry

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    Though there has been lot of pictures of S.fragrans, since it bloomed well with me, I thought of sharing some pictures
     

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  3. Jul 2, 2017 #23
    naoki

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    Both nice.

    Kelly, did you decide that yours is S. fragrans? It's difficult to see, but it might have two bumps and the spur isn't angled too much. So could it be S. seidenfadenii? Here is a thread schoenorchis fragrans - tiny tiny vandaceous
     
  4. Jul 2, 2017 #24
    KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Good question, Naoki. Mine is in bloom right now so I'll see if I can get an extreme macro.
     
  5. Jul 2, 2017 #25
    KellyW

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    I took some photos and spent time with a hand lens today and don't have a definitive answer. The flowers are tiny making the lip tinier and the callus or bumps are literally microscopic. I can see the bump(s) and it appears to be divided laterally but the more I looked the more convinced I became that I was seeing pigment down the center instead of 2 separate bumps. The bump(s) are in a curve at the end of the lip and not as easy to see as the oversimplified drawings indicate.

    As for the angle between the spur and the lip, my plant is more similar to S. fragrans but there is a range of perhaps 80-110 degrees. If the drawing of S. seidenfadenii is generally accurate (angle depicted) then I would have to say my plant is definitely S. fragrans.

    To be certain of the species one would need to dissect and have better optics than I have. For now I will continue to call it S. fragrans but I wouldn't bet more than a beer on it :).
     
  6. Jul 2, 2017 #26
    KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Hmmm. I'm starting to think my plant isn't either of those species.

    Looking more closely at Shashidhar's post above made me realize that his and mine are very different so I looked around some more.

    The drawings and photos for fragrans show the lip very straight and flat. IOSPE PHOTOS
    I haven't yet located a drawing for seidenfadenii but the photos have it looking much like mine but the two bumps on the lip are very distinctive and obvious IOSPE PHOTOS
    Both species have flowers larger than mine (at least according to IOSPE). The flowers on mine are only about 4 mm across.

    The flower shape and size of mine looks more like this
    IOSPE PHOTOS

    I'm going to keep looking into this.
     
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