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Pleurothallis sp. ID

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by rollinkansas, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. rollinkansas

    rollinkansas Active Member

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    So I have a plant from J&L that was labeled as Pleurothallis sp. Agua Verdes, Peru, and the flower looks like this:

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    I also visited Andys Orchids last week and one of the plants I picked up was labelled Pleurothallis sp. Ecuador, and the flower looks identical.

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    The plant looks identical too.. Andys plant on left, J&L's plant on right.
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    Anyone have any idea on what this plant can be?
     
  2. chicago chad

    chicago chad Active Member

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    It looks very familiar. I know I don't have it, but I am checking some resources.
     
  3. lthoerle

    lthoerle New Member

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    It's probably Pleurothallis/Muscarella aristata--the petals aren't sufficiently visible, but the rest certainly looks correct, especially the dark, bulbous apex of the lip formed by revolute sides that I believe I see. The shape of the petals looks good--are they ciliate? If yes, that's a nudge closer to P. aristata.
     
  4. rollinkansas

    rollinkansas Active Member

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    Sorry im not good with technical terms of the different parts of the flower, but the top part of the flower is all yellow, and in all the pics I see of aristata, the top part is all purple.
     
  5. lthoerle

    lthoerle New Member

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    The sepals (the three more or less triangular things with tails) are translucent yellow, variably marked with purple, mostly along the veins, sometimes the entire blade will be suffused with the darker pigment, sometimes more heavily, sometimes less, sometimes not at all. Color is one of the less reliable discriminators here. Your photos show a translucent yellow dorsal sepal (the top triangle with the tail) with the central vein marked with purple. Morphology is more reliable than color in these little guys, and many photos must be viewed with skepticism.
     
  6. chicago chad

    chicago chad Active Member

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    well said and I concur.
     
  7. rollinkansas

    rollinkansas Active Member

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    Thanks for the explanation, this is like a whole nother language for me. So would you call this aff. aristata meaning it may possibly be that species, but not definate?
     
  8. lthoerle

    lthoerle New Member

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    No, I would not call it "af." or "cf." Both of those terms have a technical meaning. Your photos don't share enough detail for a definitive diagnosis, it's hard with these teeny things, but it sure looks like Pleurothallis aristata from what I see (but I cannot see enough). Suggestion: find a diagnostic drawing of Pleurothallis aristata, pull out a hand lens, and enjoy the wonders of seeing the detail in this little thing. In particular, you want to pay attention to the lip (the dark thing that sticks out between the lateral sepals, the paired triangular things on the bottom) and the petals, which are the two smaller things on either side of the dorsal sepal (the triangular thing on top). Warning: this is how it starts--you may fall in love and become a pleurothallidiot for life.
     
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  9. rollinkansas

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    I am already addicted..I flew from NY to Cali and back home in one day last week just to visit Andys Orchids in person for a few hours....talk about crazy lol.

    I guess its good I love these plants because of the tiny foliage. The blooms are neat, and a bonus, but I dont buy plants for what the flower will look like, I buy them for what the foliage looks like. Having said that, I will try my hand at IDing this little guy...hard to take really detailed pictures with a tiny point and shoot and no tripod or anything.

    And thank you very much for the dummies guide to flower lingo..makes it much easier to understand what people are talking about when I read threads on here.