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Paphiopedilum Susan Wedegaertner

Discussion in 'Orchid Hybrids' started by DarleneJay, Jun 8, 2017.

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  1. Jun 11, 2017 #21
    CoveLady

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    Sorry Marni, I guess I assumed you had done everything you are so talented. There must be somebody on the forum who has done selfing on Papth's.
     
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  2. Jun 11, 2017 #22
    Marni

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    The structure is different on paphs than on other orchids and I've never looked at it. I do have one in bloom and will see what I can find out when I finish my current project in a few days.
     
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  3. Jun 11, 2017 #23
    Kipper

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    There is an excellent article by Troy Myers, https://lab.troymeyers.com/flasking/article.php?number=33 , thats says...Cross pollination is always preferable for reasons of genetic diversity, but paphiopedilums and phragmipediums can often be self pollinated successfully if a suitable outcross is not possible. The article gives great instructions with photographs on pollinating Paphs and Phrags. I thing I am going to try selfing a Paph Greyii I have blooming now just for giggles.
    Here is another good photo tutorial on this by Gore orchid conservatory.
    How to Pollinate your Paphiopedilum and Phragmipedium Slipper Orchids
     
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  4. Jun 11, 2017 #24
    CoveLady

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    I have talked to Troy Myers several times and he is very willing to help with questions, at least in my experience.
     
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  5. Jun 11, 2017 #25
    DarleneJay

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    Hi all. Thank so much for all of the information. I will read up on paphiopedilum pollination. My local orchid society meeting is tomorrow and I will talk with a couple of folks there too. There is one more bloom developing. So I will have at least two opportunities to give it a try.

    Based on what I find out, I might try to pollinate the current flower later this week. If I find out it is best to wait for a fresher flower, I will wait until the next flower open.

    This is excited. Thanks for the encouragement.
     
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  6. Jun 11, 2017 #26
    Marni

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    Sometimes a plant that won't take a selfing on a fresh flower, will take on an old flower. In my experience, with some species the stigma doesn't become sticky and receptive until the flower has been open for some time.
     
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    Kipper

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    Thanks Marni, The greyii has just been open a couple of days. I will wait until the end of the week.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2017 #28
    DarleneJay

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    Thanks, Marni! I would have thought it would be the opposite.
     
  9. Jun 14, 2017 #29
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    Last night I took out my toothpicks and a razon blade (to remove the pouch) and got to work. I only attempted to pollinate one flower. Should I try the other one too? Or should I wait for the next flower to open and try it after a week or so?

    Now it is awaiting game. From what I read and discussed at my orchid society meeting, it is more difficult to tell if the pollination takes in paphiopedilums than other genera. I will monitor it closely and provide updates accordingly.
     
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  10. Jun 14, 2017 #30
    Kipper

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    I spoke to a friend also and was told the same, that the ovary changes very little on most paphs. Especially at first. And the bloom will usually go ahead and fall off like normal which is unlike most genera. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
     
  11. Jun 15, 2017 #31
    DarleneJay

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    Thanks, Kipper.
     
  12. Jul 11, 2017 #32
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    Been almost a month and I think I have a pod on the greyii. Still early but keeping fingers crossed. Darlene, any luck? greyii cap.jpg
     
  13. Jul 11, 2017 #33
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    Congrats, Kipper. Unfortunately, mine did not take. However, I have one more flower that recently came into bloom and another bud coming soon. So, I am going to try again.
     
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