Tom, a few of my plants I got from the guy that owns Seed Engei. The 'Tensho' is one of them. The guy seems to be a pretty good guy and he has reasonable prices. He sells on eBay. I think his name on there is japanese orchids or something like that. The 'Tensho' looks like it's the real deal to me. It's a smaller plant than all my others. The Seed Engei guy also sells a magazine with a buch of different varieties in it. If you want I can send it to you to borrow it to check it out. If I were to add any more plants to my collection I'd like to add a 'Hisui' before anything else.