No, the list isn't out yet so settle down. oke: I just thought that since this forum is slow lately and the new list is alleged to be forthcoming, a thread on what has done well before would be good. For the next order, I'd like to focus on things that are more than likely to live. Off the top of my head, in random order, my experiences have been: - just about all Jumelleas arrive in decent shape and generally do well - larger Aerangis like ellisii and related arrive ok but sulk and are hard to establish - tiny Angraecums like breve, suprisingly seem to do well - obesum has struggled for me. I've killed two and the current one is reluctant to grow - arachnite is impossible for me to revive/grow - popowii quickly dies - sobenikoffias are large and robust and are one of the best 'values' on the list - henrici dies eventually but other Aeranthes do ok if they don't sulk - more thin-leaved Aerangis do not do well for me - rhynchoglossum, ramosum, magdalenae, Neo. filicornu have bloomed and/or spiked - pectinatum do well as do 'germianum' (conchoglossum) and surprisingly, lecomtei - protensum lives and praestans is MUCH bigger than anything you can get in the states ...but sulks - dollii and drouhardii seem to do pretty well as do about half the 'teretifolia' - Aeranthes nidus all die, so do Oenia and Cryptopus, for me at least - Ang sororium do well as do compactum and chloranthum Alright, that's enough. Apologies for any spelling errors. Please add your own experiences ...especially people like Karen that ordered a CRAPLOAD last time.