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Japanese orchids from Kusamono Gardens

Discussion in 'Orchid Vendor FYI' started by naoki, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    I didn't know about this vendor, but I saw a post in another forum. Here is a link to Kusamono Gardens ("Kusamono" is the herbaceous side-kicks of Bonsai).

    They have quite a few Japanese orchids, which are popular in Japan, but not too common in the US:
    Pecteilis radiata (2 varieties + wild type)
    Spirants sinensis
    Ponerorchis graminifolia
    Bletilla striata
    Amitostigma kinoshitae
    A. keiskei
    One Amitostigma hybrid.
    Pogonia japonica

    They are around $10-15. Just in case some of you are looking for those species.
     
  2. tong tsu shi

    tong tsu shi my first word was Masdevallia

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    Thanks so much!!!
    I love Japanese gardens, especaly Bonsai.
    One time when I went to Japan I got the cuttest Bonsai that I still have after 24 years.
    If you would like I can PM you and show you how to grow a Neofineta falcata in a Japanese style.
     
  3. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

    Naoki, have you ordered from them? It is tempting.
     
  4. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    Marni, I just placed an order (Amitostigma, Pogonia, and Spiranthes) earlier today. A couple people in Orchid Board have gotten Pecteilis radiata from them, so I think that it is a valid vendor. My order confirmation email says that they are Seattle, WA based (the web page didn't have the information about the physical location).
     
  5. tong tsu shi

    tong tsu shi my first word was Masdevallia

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    Pogonia joponica is a great plant.
    I wonder how they found this rarity?
    It's like the Arethusa bulbosa of Japan.
     
  6. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    According to Tom (Botany Boy of SlipperTalk), they are likely to be import from Shikoku Garden, which is a reputable nursery. The nursery is near my parents' house.
    This is the link to the wholesale list of Shikoku Garden. Their list for domestic sales has much more species, but there are still many cool terrestrial species. I will contact Kusamono Gardens to see if they can import others next year.
     
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  7. tong tsu shi

    tong tsu shi my first word was Masdevallia

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    Do they have Neo. falcata?
     
  8. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    No, they don't, tong. Seed Engei just sent out a new price list 2 days ago. There are good stuff. You can email Satomi <[email protected]> to get on the list.

    My order from Kusamono Gardens got shipped! I'll see if I can grow those. They might get more different species next year, and I hope it will happen!
     
  9. Fumiaki Takahashi

    Fumiaki Takahashi miniature orchidaholic

    Thank you for showing us this website.
    I will probobly be buying from them now.
     
  10. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    I've gotten the plants from Kusamono Gardens about 10 days ago, and they are all in good condition! Since they are relatively new vendor, I thought that some of you may be interested in how the condition of the plants are. I communicate with the owner, and he is hoping that he can get more species next year. I'm very satisfied.

    The top photo of each species is from the time I received (April 7), the bottom photo shows that they all started to grow (April 16). I was a little worried about the black shoots of Amitostigma, but they were all ok.

    Pogonia japonica
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    Spiranthes sinensis
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    Ponerorchis graminifolia
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    Amitostigma keiskei
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    Amitostigma kinoshitae
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  11. Fumiaki Takahashi

    Fumiaki Takahashi miniature orchidaholic

    Wow!!!
    Thanks:)

    Nice growing, what growing conditions and media?
     
  12. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    Fumiaki, I've never grown these species (except Poneorchis), so I don't know their culture yet. I think Pogonia japonica is in sphag:medium perlite=1:1 in water tray shared with carnivorous plants (Heliamphora and Drosera). Poneorchis is in Med. perlite:sphag:fine bark=2:1:1. Others are in Med. perlite:sphag:fine bark=1:1:1. Pumice/Kanuma based media is commonly used in Japan, but I don't have access to those. Here is some info about Japanese books (since it isn't relevant to non-javanese readers): 東京山草会ラン・ユリ部会から出てる、ふやして楽しむ野生ラン、にいっぱい情報が入ってるよ。東京山草会の小型野生らんを楽しむ―人気の野生種・園芸種100余種と育て方 (別冊趣味の山野草)もいいけど、ふやして楽しむ野生ランのほうがいいよ。アマゾン.jpから買えれるよ。
     
  13. Fumiaki Takahashi

    Fumiaki Takahashi miniature orchidaholic

    ありがとう。
     
  14. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    I lost Pogonia japonica quickly, but all others flowered a couple weeks ago. Well, it is easy to flower the first year because the flowers are due to good culture by the vendor. Hopefully, I can keep them for next year.

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    I put Ponerorchis graminifolia photos on a separate thread, but here is one photo:
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    Spirants sinensis is the last one to flower, but I haven't taken photos yet.
     
  15. alenz

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    These look great Naoki! I will be anxious to see how they do for you across the year. I bought a Ponerorchis graminifolia this year too and it's in full bloom right now as well. Hopefully they will do well!
     
  16. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    Marni pointed out that her friend thought that A. kinoshitae could be potentially miss-ID. Until then, I didn't look into the flowers, but she is right; the lip shape of my plant is cupped, and quite different from the typical flowers of this species. I think that this is called Hotei-zaki. Or it is called Hotei-koanichidori (koanichidoir is a Japanese name of this species). Hotei is a Chinese monk with a big clothe bag from long time ago (link to wikipedia). So the lip looks like a bag/slipper. I'll need to check more, but one website mentions that it is from Niigata Prefecture. It is supposed to be a well-known variety.

    Here is an example:
    コアニチドリ:小阿仁千鳥布袋咲き | The blog of meraki

    It is interesting that the photo in Shikoku Garden is the regular type. I have one which didn't flower this year. I wonder if I'll get Hotei or regular kind.

    Sometimes, this species is supposed to make new baby plants (bulbils? keiki?) from the spent flower shoot. I'll see if mine will do it.
     
  17. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    Cool! You should post photos! There are lots of variations, so it is fun to see all!
     
  18. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    And here is the last one to flower from this purchase: Spiranthes sinensis.

    A link to a great article about this species by Tom (botany boy): A beautiful orchid “weed”, Spiranthes sinensis

    Indeed, it is a beautiful "weed"!

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    I've been trying my new, cheap macro lens (M.Zuiko 30mm/f3.5 Macro) for the 1st and 3rd photos above. 60mm is easier to work, but 30mm is an amazing bargain.
     
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  19. Chuck-NH

    Chuck-NH Active Member

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    Hi Naoki,

    What are the cultural conditions for this species? Moist, even during dormancy?
     
  20. naoki

    naoki Well-Known Member

    Chuck, I got the tuber this spring (as noted in the beginning of this thread), so I don't know the culture yet. There is fair amount of information in Japanese sites and books. So I'm trying to follow these. It is practically a weed in nature, but they say that keeping it for a long time in cultivation isn't as easy as expected. Here are a couple info from these sites.

    They have rounder, smaller leaves close to the ground in the winter (you can see above in #10), and taller skinnier summer leaves, which appears from the middle of the winter leaves. After the summer leaves, the winter leaves dies (as you can see in the photo in #18). Then the inflorescence appears from the middle of the summer leaves. This change from winter leaves to flowering happened really rapidly. The next step is that winter leaves appear from the side of the summer leaves in the fall. So it will stay green all year long.

    Sunny place for the entire year. Moist media. I water when the surface dries (but inside is still moist). Keep it moist in the winter, too. It can handle a bit of freezing. I'm using Medium Perlite:crumbly cheap sphagnum moss: Miracle-Gro Orchid Potting mix (the medium bark one with peat and fertilizer in it)=2:1:1. But whatever with good drainage seems to be ok. Other people use 100% kanuma, 100% sphag, or Akadama+sand.

    It is supposed to be easy to seed propagate without flasking. I'll see if mine will set seeds. They say that the seeds mature rapidly in 1 month after flowering, so you have to pay attention to it.
     
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