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Changes to genus Vanda

Discussion in 'Everything Else Orchid' started by msaar, Oct 18, 2012.

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    msaar

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    Tom-DE

    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Really, Mike? I think I have enough of this at the other forum, so I would rather see some photos of unusual species and learn some culture tips.
    "Taxonmy is a moving taget." Let's see what will happen in just few more months!
     
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    KellyW

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    Ricardo

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    We are at the time where the lumpers rule. When the splitters return (and they will) we will see the changes begin anew. Luckly, thousands of hybrid names can be changed with a few keystrockes to fit the new reality. And changed again and again.
     
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    Marni

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    Thanks for the note. I couldn't make the link work, so I guess I won't be able to change my tags today.:rolleyes: Unlike Tom, this is the only forum I follow so am glad to know what is going on, even if I am slow to pick up changes. I agree with Ricardo. The lumpers are very active these days. But taxonomists have to make a living doing something, so they will lump everything and then a new group will come of age and split it back up.
     
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    Ricardo

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    The discussions about name changes have been going on forever in the orchid hobby. However it has been only recently that the power to change the names of thousands or even hundred of thousands of hybrids has become available. As for me these discussions have been illuminating. I have found that except for a few purists that strive for up to the second taxonomic accuracy, most people are content to communicate using the established names. In fact none of my friends have changed their labels, even AOS judges I know only use the new names they they need to communicate with those very few places that demand only the new nomenclature. Perhaps with time those of us familiar with the old names will drop off the hobby or die and a new generation will take over using the new names. But maybe not. Knowing the way my younger relatives think, I would expect someone to make a system that will allow a person to take a photo and then have it ID by an automatic screening system.
     
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    The most notable thing I see is that Neofinetia is now listed under VANDA !!!!!!!!
    Unbelievable, yet thay leave V. sanderiana as a single species in Euanthe.....
    Nothing new to speak of in the other sections.
     
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    msaar

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    Sorry, I mistakenly included Euanthe in my original post.
     
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    Roy

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    See my new posting, make your hair curl.
     
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    I agree with you all....always Neofinetia... like the Japanese have said for centuries
     
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    Tom-DE

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    Sh*t! That isn't a secret that I belong to few other orchid forums. At least 90% of the members here belong to at least one more forum besides OI. Loyalties don't mean a thing between forum members and the forum owners.

    About my original/first post, that is how I feel about the name changes and the topics on name changes have been dicussed over a millions times at public forums, especially recently. We fought, we cried and we kissed..., same old story! For those who follow Kew's order, good for you! but just don't keep telling others to do the same.
     
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    Brent W

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    I think her only point was not everyone that visits here goes to other forums. So having the information here is helpful to those people :)
     
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    Marni

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    Tom, I have no problem with people who visit many forums. This is the first forum I joined and it isn't limited because of loyalty, it is a matter of time. I've looked at others that interest me very much and see some people I know there. I realize that previous owners were opposed, but that has nothing to do with me and I always thought it very hostile and petty. I've appreciated it when people here have linked to discussions on other fora as we are all better informed.
     
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    Reyna

    Reyna Orchid Obsessed Supporting Member

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    All the taxonomy changes drive me bonkers!