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Bulbophyllum musicola

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by Marni, Aug 18, 2014.

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  1. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I am hoping for a name for this that came in labeled Sunipea cirrhata. Does anyone have any ideas?

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    Check sikkimense.
     
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  4. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Chad, I'm really bad at identifying things so I appreciate any input. I would rule out the B elegantulum because this is a much bigger plant than the drawing.

    I very much like the unidentifed yellow thing, but can't say for sure if they are the same or not. Also, it is only listed from Vietnam.

    This is from a nursery in Kalimpong who pretty much has plants from that area in their collection.

    Sam, the neighborhood is right, but the sikkimensis images I find have hairs on the margins of the dorsal and mine doesn't.

    Thank you for taking the time to look and respond.
     
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    I dont think it is sp it actually looks like cross Bublophyllum with Trias, but still no idea...
     
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    No and No and No. and a big fat No for Bulbo-Trias hybrid :D
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I think the B hookeri/muscicola is the closest to this plant.
     
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    Do you have it? It grows well under slightly cool condition as well
     
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    I would not say no to that guess but it is still a bit off IMO. For sure I would say no to those three that Chad and Sam suggested.
     
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    yellow thing is not no ID it is retusiusculum complex Bulbophyllum which contain possible one sp with many varieties on it flowers are much more smaller, B hookeri/muscicola- comes from Assam = India, Nepal and West Himalaya. and I found it in the book of Seidenfaden, shape of bulbs thickness, nearly oval ended leaves, perfectly matched in size and oval shape huge petals with dorsal sepal - I actually don't have any doubts any more, it is very unusual proportion in Cirrhopetalum, this is why initially I thought about cross with trias...
     
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    No, I've never had it. Don't know that I've ever seen it either.
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thank you, Piotr, for digging in to this. The location is right on.
     
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    I should have one for you if you like to have. Send me an email if you want. I want to know about those two Lepanthes species also.
     
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    Tom, I've just finished upgrading and expanding one greenhouse and am in the process of emptying another so it can be torn down and rebuilt (bigger and better). So life is a bit chaotic right now, but I will send an email soon.
     
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    Okay. Good luck with the new greenhouses and I hope you will get some helping hands for the project.
     
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    I would still call it Bulbophyllum pumilio
    Pankaj
     
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    Marni, I see you have quoted a nursery in Kalimpong. There have been several hybrids made from that area. Notably B.Kalimpong. Have you considered fibratum? (not fimbriatum) Occurrence S.Vietnam.
     
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    Thanks, Seidenfaden, for the suggestion. I hadn't looked at that.
     
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    Ok, i had a chance to look at floras from Sikkim. I even contacted Mr. U C Pradhan from Kalimpong and he said this is sikkimense, but I am sure this is not owing to the blunt apex of dorsal sepal and lateral petals. I think this is Cirrhopetalum wallichii which is now known as Bulbophyllum muscicola. Seidenfaden kept it under the synonymy of Bulbophyllum retusiusculum but he was wrong. Also reported from Nepal and Vietnam. Thanks for sharing.