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Brassavola perrinii

Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by Marni, Jul 10, 2022.

  1. Jul 10, 2022 #1
    Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I bought a 3 growth piece of this 5 years ago and every year it gets better. The fragrance is wonderful! I am growing it cool with reduced water in the winter. When I looked on line, many of the examples seemed to have a much rounder lip. If anyone thinks this is misnamed, please let me know.

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  2. Jul 11, 2022 #2
    Arne

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    You can compare with my B perrinii, which I bought from Peter Lin about 7 years ago. There is definitely a difference. I leave it like that because it isn't that easy to distinguish the different Brassavola species I think.
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  3. Jul 11, 2022 #3
    Marni

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    Thanks, Arne. Yours is a nice flower. The side view is quite different!
     
  4. Jul 12, 2022 #4
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    Do you have the Withner book? I’ll check mine when I get back to my office.

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    Marni

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    I do have Withner's book and will check it too. I forget I have a library. Google is so much easier!
     
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    B. Lip broadly oval, almost circular.
    I. Leaves scarcely more more than 5 mm diameter, scarcely more than 30 cm long.
    a. Lip lamina abruptly pointed, apical tooth of clinandrium deeply lacerate… B perrinii

    Winther, Carl. The Cattleyas and Their Relatives Volume V. Brassavola, Encylia, and Other Genera of Mexico and Central America. Pg 38.
     
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  8. Jul 13, 2022 #8
    Marni

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    Thanks, Daniel! I do have the whole Withner set, but can't find Volume 5 where it should be.

    I think that the other one that is shown as perrinii on Google is Brassavola flagellaris.
     
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    Marni

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    I recently got B. cebolleta and was wondering about the name. I does have a little onion shaped pseudobulb that becomes obvious once you look for it.
     
  10. Jul 13, 2022 #10
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    The lips certainly look different. I had to look up what a clinandrium was. Hope that’s distinct enough.
     
  11. Jul 14, 2022 #11
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    I have PM'd you the relevant Withner pages in case you haven't managed to locate it yet. Here also are pics of my 'perrinii', blooming since early May, still in bloom, and smelles like ripe pears (to me). brassavolaperriniiclose0522.jpeg brassavolaperriniifull0522.jpeg
     
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  12. Jul 14, 2022 #12
    Marni

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    Thanks for all the information in your PM. I did finally find the right volume last night. I'm comfortable that mine is B. perrinii. I would think that yours is B. flabellaris. I did find another plant labeled B. perrinii from the same source that is clearly not perrinii. I haven't bloomed it yet. I am not good at remembering fragrance so can't say what the fragrance of mine is, but ripe pears doesn't ring a bell.

    This is such an interesting and confusing genus.
     
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  13. Jan 6, 2023 #13
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    Okay everyone, since a couple of weeks ago (maybe days ago) Brassavola perrinii is recognized as B tuberculata. I was made aware of the change yesterday when I received the invoice for the awards for my B perrinii.

    This is probably all correct but it doesn't make life easier.
     
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    Marni

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    I just listed flasks of my B. perrinii on my website. Now I will need to investigate and revise this. Sigh.

    I just looked back at your plant and I am comfortable that they are different. But who knows how broad the definition of B tuberculata is! Do you know where this was published?
     
  15. Jan 6, 2023 #15
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