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Black walnut mount .... Update

Discussion in 'Everything Else Orchid' started by KellyW, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Has anyone used black walnut wood as a mount? The wood is very durable but a live tree has allelopathic qualities (suppresses other plant growth to minimize competition). I don't know if this quality translates into the wood for epiphytes. Any ideas?
     
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    Boytjie Out hiking Supporting Member

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    Hard to tell. Black walnut toxicity is in the tree's root system, and nothing grows around or under a black walnut tree for that reason. Who knows if that toxicity might be passed on to an orchid through the bark - but with so many other options, why take a chance?

    -Stephen
     
  3. KellyW

    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I have a bunch of it and it is very durable. But you are correct, if there is a chance of a problem I won't use it. I would basically be sawing or splitting slabs from a large round so there would not be bark involved.
     
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    Boytjie Out hiking Supporting Member

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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Kelly, you must have a piece of something that you could afford to sacrifice. Why not give it a try?
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Stephen, thanks for the link. I always find these kinds of topics fascinating.

    Marni, you are right. I will try it with something I have an abundance of and can afford to kill.

    Thanks,
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    OK, on November 22 I mounted a small cutting of Epidendrum porpax to a piece of black walnut that I split off of the round. The little cutting is thriving and has roots attached to the black walnut wood. There is no bark on this mount. This is one trial with one species but it is doing fine. I will continue to use the black walnut wood based on this trial.
    Epidendrum porpax plant-800.jpg Epidendrum porpax roots2-800.jpg
     
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    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks for the update and it looks great!
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Kelly, how is this project going? Have you tried any other plants on it?
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Hi, Tom. No I haven't tried any more plants yet although I have a few of the mounts ready to use. This plant is doing great and I just recently gave it to one of our newer Forum members. I didn't see any ill effects from the black walnut wood. Thanks for the reminder ... I need to use more of this.
     
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    I believe I have a couple black walnut trees in my far back yard.. im ganna have to find out where they are now and see if anything grows by them.. my interest is peeked.
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Anna, the photos above should look familiar to you. :cool:
     
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    It does ! And I have him hanging way far from my kitties. How they want the roots soo badly lol!!
     
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    Daethen Orchid Mom

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    I am very surprised that it did that well on walnut. I guess you learn something new every day.
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Here is a Gastrochilus japonicus that is on black walnut. It certainly doesn't affect the roots or growth. I have tried 3 species on this wood and have not seen a problem.

    from below showing roots-900.jpg roots-900.jpg
    roots2-900.jpg
     
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    jai Orchid addict

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    They seem to really enjoy rooting to this wood. I will need to look around for some to try it out myself:)
     
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    I think what may be helping is that these appear to be well seasoned /aged pieces of black walnut.

    Regardless, black walnut experiment = success!
     
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    Thank you for the update, Kelly. It is good to know. It is a beautifully grown G. japonicus!