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Barbosella sp. from Peru

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by Marni, Jan 19, 2009.

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  1. Marni

    Marni Well-Known Member Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Largest flower is 2.36 " (6 cm) tall. Tallest growth is 2.75 " (7 cm). This is from northern Peru. I grow it intermediate.
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    I took this picture at a botanical garden in Germany. they had it labeled at Barbosella cogniauxiana. There are a few that look simular. I never took a close up of the flowers

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    Kyle, that plant on your photo is not Barbosella cogniauxiana. B. cogniauxiana has completely different growth and flower. It might be B. prorepen.

    Marni, Your Barbosella in question is wonderful. It reminds me a little B. ricii but I am not sure. Another possibility is B. dolichorhriza
     
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    Kyle, thanks for looking and taking the time to respond. I am posting B.cogniauxiana in another thread. As Tom said, it is very different. But that plant you posted is amazing. It looks like there is another one that big right next to it!

    I am really bad at barbosellas. So many of them look alike to me.

    Thanks, Tom. I'll see what I can find on the leads you provided.
     
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    Hi Marni, I saw the other thread. I guess there plant is mislabeled. But the two do look similar. Both in habit and flower. They did have some huge specimens of a few pleuro species. Really neat. I think the garden was in Hanover.

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    I agree, they look very similar. Mine carries the flowers a bit higher above the foliage, but that might be culture, too. I do agree that their plant is misidentified. So it isn't just me who is confused.
     
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    Tom, I've looked up the barbosellas you mentioned. The foliage with the clumping habit with papery bracts is like B ricii, which is only mentioned from central Bolivia (a long way from northern Peru).

    B. dolichorhiza has the right distribution, but the growth habit is quite different in Luer's drawing. Also it the key gives the sepal as at least 18 mm and mine are 11 mm. The more I look, the more confused I become.
     
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    Marni, you are not alone. some of Barbosella flowers look so much alike. The variation among the same species just gives me headache.
    I am not sure if Barbosella ricii is only found in Bolivia (Peru is just a neighbor country). It does look like a good candidate though.

    Edit: Just took a look at my Barbosella dolichorhiza. Yup, the plant growth is different.
     
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    I'm not sure either, but I've made the trip from northern Peru to central Bolivia and it is probably like Maine to Miami (only with a lot really bad road). So I checked the Peruvian resources I had. Eric Christenson's Icones Peruvianum has no barbosellas. I checked Schweinfurth's Orchids of Peru (where nothing is alphabetized and there is no index) and couldn't find any. So, I don't know that it comes from Peru, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

    For the time being or until someone comes up with a better idea, I think I'll go with B ricii with a question mark.