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Discussion in 'Orchid Species' started by Magnus A, Feb 11, 2009.
I can laugh at that, Diego.
Except for the reason that he may have wanted to post something in Swedish. Not everyone is going to care if you understand.
Don't you get the irony of you telling me to stay on the forum longer until I have learned the language of the forum, but you want others to speak only YOUR language. You want to be able to post in-jokes and use slang that others can't understand. but you have the gall to tell others they don't have the same liberties you claim for yourself. I believe that criticizing someone's contribution because YOU can't understand it is provincial and counter-productive.
I acctually reacted that Masdevallia wrote in swedish and not in english, but I was to tired to translate it yesterday evning.
Now to your first swedish lesson!
Väldigt fin bild!
Very nice picture!
And here I belive that "nice" could be uses in irony here, but in the swedish line you can not read in irony in the statement! Unfortuneat I can not write the fonetics......
Cool down, and worry when there is long discussions in other languge not small comments!
I have a question on orchids! For the last couple of years, I have been trying to understand the difference between A. elephantinum, didieri and rutenburgianum. I have gotten the same species labeled under all three names. One of the plants was from Hoosier and another was from Germany. I did an out cross before I realized that there was apparently confusion about this. I spoke with Leon Glicenstein at Hoosier who admitted that he didn't really know what they had. Isabyl LaCroix had a note in The Orchid Review some months back that said she believed that most of what we saw was not either A didieri nor elephantinum but A rutenburgianum.. Does anyone have some thoughts on this. I'm really hoping for an answer before these guys come of flask.
Pum whaxavo je didoaxa Vaxalni. Pum whaxavo jovol ovon whoaxald eb lutonfulgiaxanum. Dolhaxaps 100. Floozo vidd fo axafro te skow semo ridd en zis?
Floozo. What a great word.
Pum revo zaxat kiffolisk slaxansraxatel.
Eh, whorr yoaxa. Dit dis pit ret eb bun. pi ug kot axawosemo jod welds riko breeze.
Marni, is it really irony? I only can laugh at your last comment! This is an "American" forum and American speak English. I don't care if it is "Queen's English" or American English as long as it is English. If I join a Swedish forum, I will not post in English because it is RUDE if I do that!
Let me give you a scenarios here--six people are having a conversation and all of them are speaking English, but suddenly two of them are talking to each other in other language and the other four don't understand what these two are talking about. How do you feel about that if you are one of the other four who only speak English?
Magnus, I can see your point there. Sorry about the mess that I made on your thread.
***This will be my last post on this matter.
Yes...I hate it when people start talking in another language amongst themselves such that I cannot eavesdrop. I also hate it when people pass notes to each other. Jesus...don't they realize it is my RIGHT to know what they're saying to each other??? :bang: The fact that this nonsense is on an Ang thread sickens me. C'est tres stupide. Oops!
"Eh, whorr yoaxa. Dit dis pit ret eb bun. pi ug kot axawosemo jod welds riko breeze. "
Hey! Don't try to get me involved in your polyglotinous rabble-rousing, punk!
Marni, I think that question is the source of lots of confusion and frustration. It is my understanding that didieri looks more clumpish with less space between leaves and whiter flowers. Elephantinum begins more green and turns white and the leaves are more widely spaced on the stem. The books mention some vague differences in leaf width if I recall correctly but I found trying to take measurements of little help. I believe rutenbergianum to have thinner roots than either of the other two. I think it grows at a higher altitude and in more exposed locations and is thus more 'stunted' in appearance. I also don't think I would be too far off in saying that didieri is more warmish, elephantinum more intermediate, and ruten. more cool. All of that is a mixture of speculation, vague recollections, and perhaps outright fantasy! Stewart doesn't seem to think elephantinum is really out there much and we probably all have didieri or even hybrids with improper tags. Alas...
I still think that is is WONDERFUL that this forum has members sharing information from all over the world. In whatever language they can. We can try to figure out what it means, in our language. That is our issue, not theirs.
mrbreeze, I was hoping for a definitive answer, but I'm happy for anything at this time. Any clues about differences in fragrance?
Magnus, does yours open one color and then fade? Do you have others in this group to compare it to?
I have been in Berlin over the day and are to tired to write my comment on the Ang. I will give my thoughts later.
About the three word Swedish I have one thing.......
I DO NOT think it is OK to discuss things in other language than English on an English forum as it is rude as pointed out. I agree with this. BUT it is very hard to express judgement and opinion (possibly the wrong words) about things in your second language and in this case it is obvious that it is an opinon and not a question, few words no questionmark! It is easy to be missunderstood and everyone is not that used to write in a second language. Please be nice to us non English speakers and let these kind of very short remarks slip. BUT If I start discussions in Swedish let hell lose!
Marni, as you I have been looking for information on A. elephantinum, didieri and rutenburgianum! They seem to be very similar in growth. After some research I am certain that I do not have an elefantinum but a didieri!
I found this page that have pictures of all three in flower and they match the descriptions I found on other intenet sites!
There seems to be a lot of small angaecums that are really beautiful. Do you know any european growers that have a good supply??
Thanks for the link. I have the Ang. Encyclopedia book marked, but some how overlooked the page with all on one.
I just noticed that the elephantinum has a long, slightly curled spur. I wonder if the resemblance to an elephants trunk gives the name? I will pay more attention when they bloom this year. That and go back and look in my books.
I know of one grower there who specializes in Aerangis, but may have other anagraecoids as well. I'll check with him to see if it is OK to pass along his name.
Please do so.. Thanks.
I believe it was Hillerman who said that the name elephantinum comes from the appearance of the roots. The velamen, more specifically, which looks like elephant skin. Of course by that logic there are probably dozens of Angs that should be called elephantinum.