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Aerangis

Discussion in 'Orchid Identification Section' started by wpinnix, Mar 22, 2015.

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  1. wpinnix

    wpinnix William Pinnix

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    I've had this for many years without a label. The leaves and spike have an orange hue to them. Any help identifying it would be great.

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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    The flower count is low but I'm thinking , maybe A. articulata?
     
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    DPfarr Well-Known Member

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    Aerangis modesta. Maybe
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Your plant doesn't look like articulata or modesta. Certainly not even come close to the articulata and modesta that I have.
    Bill, If I have time and find something on the books I have, I let you know.
     
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    wpinnix William Pinnix

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    Thanks Tom. The leaves are about an inch and a half long. I've never seen a bigger leaf in 15 years. It grows in a shady spot, doesn't seem to like bright light.
     
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    xmpraedicta Prairie angraecoid nut Supporting Member

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    I have seen similar plants with the red coloured spike and the red tinged, rounder leaves named 'modesta'. The spikes on these tend to be somewhat thinner than the conventional 'modesta', which seem to have thicker, green spikes. Part of me wonders whether these are the true modesta, and green spiked ones are simply mislabeled variants of articulata. Does anyone have the new Aerangis book to look this up? :)
     
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    DPfarr Well-Known Member

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    This plant is not in the optimum state to be identified in my opinion. I was just looking through La Croix's book. I don't know if it was Hillerman's book or Stewart's but one was depicting the distribution of modesta. One growing at the edge of forests are the red leafed ones.

    The thing that might decide against it being modesta is the beaked column. Which it does have and supports the guess.
     
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    gg68 Angraecoid addict

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    I agree with DPfarr.
    I think that this orchid maybe survives, but certainly suffers since 15 years....
    Only two such little leaves, even if it is A.modesta, it is not normal....so it is really hard to find its id...
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    15 yrs is a long time for a plant. I doubt this plant has been suffering all these years..., if the leaves are always so small (for all these 15 years), I would like to believe this is something else rather than the modesta that I know of.
    The flower does look like modesta, but there are so many Angreacoids that look all alike, for example, the Ang. didieri group and some Jumellea. Dig deeper!

    Bill, I could not find anything like your plant, sorry.
     
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    wpinnix William Pinnix

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    Thank you Tom. I too don't believe the plant is suffering, just a small statured plant. There is always the possibility it's a hybrid with modesta. What is the normal flower size for modesta?
     
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    Tom-DE Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    The flowers on both of my clones(modesta) are about 1" wide, maybe a little bit bigger but not by much. The spike is about 10" long and It has lots of flowers.
     
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    gg68 Angraecoid addict

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    Two little leaves, only two flowers, some dried roots....I'm sorry but you can not say that this Aerangis is healthy!!
    It maybe survive since 15 years but there are not so many different Aerangis and none with these characteristics....it is surely A.modesta or A.articulata!!
    Sometimes in the plant world there may be weak individuals , malformed , as in humans
     
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    KellyW Orchid wonk Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I deleted the last three posts.
    Starting with this post ..... any post on this thread that isn't respectful will be deleted. If you have a personal problem with someone send them a Personal Message.

    We welcome respectful discussions and disagreements but will not tolerate berating and insulting other members.
     
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    wpinnix William Pinnix

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    I'm feeling like this is a hybrid. The leaves are quite thick and succulent. Images of articulata seem to show thin and strap like leaves. If I had to guess I'd say a cross between articulata and punctata, but I can't find any evidence that this cross had been made. I've seen pictures of Winter Dawn that look similar to this (Orange leaves and spike, etc.).
     
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    I've never seen a punctata hybrid either. I'm interested in what traits are transferred in those hybrids. The leaf patterns, the bumpy roots, the off white creamy colored flowers. Very curious if any of those would be dominate.

    There is Aerangis Winter Dove and Winter Snow.

    Winter Dove is kotschyana x Armado Vasquez =(cryptodon x articulata)

    Winter Snow is Winter Dove x fastuousa

    The red you're talking about, is very apparent on the modesta or articulata when grown bright. It could be a hybrid of either.